Hi chaps,
My KV-2 will be getting a pigment treatment.
How do you find the best way to apply them? Are they better applied to a gloss or matt finish?
Just thought i would raise it here so we can gather some good pigment techniques and keep them easy to find.
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Re: Using Pigments
Generally speaking, pigments won't stick very good on a glossy surface.
For application, I use them either directly from the bottle for a dusty effect or with water for a thicker layer. Water gives you the opportunity to brush off almost everything if you're not happy with it. Once I like the results, I fix it in place with Tamiya thinner or turpentine. If I want to get a damp or wet look, I add a few drops of clear gloss afterwards.
For mud splatters I've experimented with blowing the water/pigment mixture from a thick brush onto the model with the airbrush, but it's still a lot of trial and error.
Philipp
For application, I use them either directly from the bottle for a dusty effect or with water for a thicker layer. Water gives you the opportunity to brush off almost everything if you're not happy with it. Once I like the results, I fix it in place with Tamiya thinner or turpentine. If I want to get a damp or wet look, I add a few drops of clear gloss afterwards.
For mud splatters I've experimented with blowing the water/pigment mixture from a thick brush onto the model with the airbrush, but it's still a lot of trial and error.
Philipp
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Re: Using Pigments
Thanks Philipp! I like the idea of using water intially, i shall try that.
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Re: Using Pigments
Hi Woody,
Pigments are definately best applied to a matt surface. They can "grip" far better that way. They can be applied dry and produce very realistic dusty and dirty finishes that way. They are also great for getting a faded paint effect. It's best to apply them at the end of your normal weathering process too, because unless you fix them they can rub off with constant handling. Of course, if you fix them be aware that the colour may change. I've found that misting the fixer through my airbrush from a distance achieves the same result without changing the colours too much. The roof of my little Opel car was done that way.
You can also apply pigments wet, sort of like a slushy wash. I generally use the thinners of the manufacturer but thats my personal preference.
Once dry they can be adjusted with more pigment and more thinners until you get the result you like.
I love using them.
Hope that helps.
Vincent
Pigments are definately best applied to a matt surface. They can "grip" far better that way. They can be applied dry and produce very realistic dusty and dirty finishes that way. They are also great for getting a faded paint effect. It's best to apply them at the end of your normal weathering process too, because unless you fix them they can rub off with constant handling. Of course, if you fix them be aware that the colour may change. I've found that misting the fixer through my airbrush from a distance achieves the same result without changing the colours too much. The roof of my little Opel car was done that way.
You can also apply pigments wet, sort of like a slushy wash. I generally use the thinners of the manufacturer but thats my personal preference.
Once dry they can be adjusted with more pigment and more thinners until you get the result you like.
I love using them.
Hope that helps.
Vincent
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Re: Using Pigments
Pigments are also handy for shading and highlights. Vinnie used black and brown pigments exclusively for shadows on his figures. I use various green or tan pastels for color shifts on stowage items. The pigment dust is dead flat, so it can be useful in killing a stubborn glossy spot.
Just remember not to attempt to photograph a pigment treated model using a flash. The particles reflect light and give the model a very odd appearance.
Just remember not to attempt to photograph a pigment treated model using a flash. The particles reflect light and give the model a very odd appearance.
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Hi Vincent and John,
Thanks for the advice, and it's all been taken on board Had a play with the new pigments i got and am (i think) happy with what i have achieved. Photos will be in the KV-2 thread.
Thanks for the advice, and it's all been taken on board Had a play with the new pigments i got and am (i think) happy with what i have achieved. Photos will be in the KV-2 thread.
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Re: Using Pigments
Hi Woody
I also use mine through the Airbrush either with a little water or dry, sprays on like a really fine dust would in real life.
Shaun
I also use mine through the Airbrush either with a little water or dry, sprays on like a really fine dust would in real life.
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Hi Shaun,
Interesting technique. Is clean up of the airbrush easy enough?
Interesting technique. Is clean up of the airbrush easy enough?
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